as is the dugout times tradition...we go great lengths to give ya updates...

in germany...the biggest teams,except stuttgart in a big match all flopped...bayern losing 0-1,dortmund's misery piled up with a 2-0 loss over stuttgart,leverkusen went to berlin and were robbed and i dunno why bremen were so dumb to throw away a 1-0 lead against mainz...and singapore pools are sly enough not to give any bundesliga matches for betting yesterday...those who bet in euro kena liao

and the catalan idiots won the castillian dogs 1-0...amid news that sonny anderson of villareal packing his bags and going to Qatar...as for the condition at manuel luiz de lopera,it's a draw for betis...dunno why betis is having a craving for draws lately...and still no good for prep against dinamo kiev and valencia

as always red star and partizan derbies were a great affair,with many star partizan players given a rest for next week's uefa cup fixture...and the shitting f is that both drew 0-0...somehow red star is playing even more defensively against partizan

and a botched job for the demolition of maine road turned against the chelski army...as the nil gang won again...and it's now the turn for man u the saviour to turn the tide and then ask panathinaikos to punish the nil gang...even if signs doesn't look good against birmingham

and even more trouble for rosenborg against stabaek...and if any of the next 2 wins...u know what will end...the monopoly...but we remember that rosenborg may have a nasty knack of losing 8 games and still win the tippeligaen...so provided valerenga flops also...we believe this will become tight

and the only accurate hit of the day is in prague...where sparta rubs even more salt in a 2-0 win...even so a two in a row against man u is unlikely...and we expect the next person to go in the winter transfer window is jiri homola...u know why...both he score

and a surprise by messina never came...but it's not hard to imagine a flying pony from sicily,as u would think of flying donkeys from verona

19/10/2004
Monaco 20:45 Olympiacos (it's in the stade louis II so expect saviola to repel rivaldo back to athens)
Liverpool 20:45 Deportivo (Rafa vs Irureta...Pool wins)
Real Madrid 20:45 Dynamo Kyiv (Ok...dun expect any thrashing...but expect dinamo to stubbornly resist)
Leverkusen 20:45 Roma(one temporarily impotent,one just recovered from impotency...expect a draw)
Juventus 20:45 Bayern (very tough match...expect makaay to emergency rescue again)
Ajax 20:45 M. Tel-Aviv (that's the only game maccabi can win against a badly weakened ajax)
Sparta 20:45 Man. United (forget about a two in a row in toyota arena)
Fenerbahçe 20:45 Lyon (if we say Istanbul is scary...lets list out the places...Sublime Porte,The Fort of 7 towers,Ali Sami Yen...and Sucru Saracoglu)

20/10/2004
Rosenborg 20:45 PSV (badly weakened Rosenborg at a brace of brace of defeats again and a PSV in super form...expect PSV to thaw before Rosenborg starts chopping)
Panathinaikos 20:45 Arsenil(nil gang to get cooked in Athens)
Milan 20:45 Barcelona (this is no nou camp...this is the san siro and milan win)
Shakhtar 20:45 Celtic (in Ukraine,this fix is best avoided by scots)
Anderlecht 20:45 Bremen(bah...perennial underachievers against fallen german champs...a bremen win)
Valencia 20:45 Internazionale(matters at the mestalla get a bit hot...and expect adriano to fire again)
Chelsea 20:45 CSKA Moskva (the russians have no match for the chelski)
PSG 20:45 Porto(porto should win this one,particularly if they won later tonight)

21/10/2004(UEFA)
Aachen 18:15 Lille(Lille nicks this one)
Egaleo 19:15 Middlesbrough(Boro too)
Dnipro 19:30 Club Brugge (Brugge win)
Zenit 20:00 AEK(no comment)
Dinamo Tbilisi 20:00 Sochaux(not much to say)
Feyenoord 20:05 Hearts(expect feyenoord to win)
Steaua 20:15 Standard(steaua to win)
Schalke 20:30 Basel(draw or schalke win)
Amica 20:30 Rangers (rangers if they didn't pole-axed)
Beveren 20:45 Stuttgart (stuttgart win)
Auxerre 20:45 GAK(auxerre should be able to win this one)
Zaragoza 20:45 Utrecht (a draw seems likely)
Athletic 21:00 Parma(athletic melts some parmesan for throwing at castillians)
Lazio 21:00 Villarreal (draw)
Benfica 21:15 Heerenveen (benfica win)
Panionios 21:30 Newcastle(not my prob...better not get whacked in greece)

oh...ya...i gtg... and here's crap from shaktar donetsk site


Ref.: Mr. Yuriy S. Alexeyev, FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk President
Mr. Yevgen M. Kucherevskyy, FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk Head Coach
Mr. Dmytro Mykhaylenko, Team Captain

Dear Friends!

We congratulate you on the successful performance in the UEFA Cup second leg match vs Maccabi Tel Aviv and qualifying for the UC group stage .Your success is that of the whole Ukrainian football, which strives to establish itself at the European football arena. Let’s hope, the achievements of the leading domestic clubs will be exemplary for the footballing community of Ukraine. We kindly ask you to share our congratulations with all those, who contributed to this success: players, coaches, technical staff, club employees and the loyal fans.

With best regards,

Rinat Akhmetov,FC Shakhtar Donetsk President
Mircea Lucescu, FC Shakhtar Head Coach
Anatoliy Tymoshchuk, FC Shakhtar captain

here's the tactic from the miners...and dnipro played maccabi haifa instead of tel aviv...this is because maccabi has just escaped from a 1-0 loss from delle alpi